Kako ne treba odigrati ruku.

[Gile_vu]

Ne znam da li je slicna tema vec postavljena, ako jeste samo me uputite. Ako nije, e pa ovako.
Po mom iskustvu, skromnom, u većini tutorijala, tema na forumima, video coaching-u, knjigama i slicno, govori se kako treba igrati u odredjenim situacijama. Moj predlog je da prikazemo ruke koje smo odigrali lose, objasniti konkretno kad i kako smo pogresili, pa diskutovati o tome. Mislim, da u zivotu, pa i pokeru, covek mnogo bolje uci na svojim greskama, a ne bi bilo lose da uci na tudjim. Pa da probamo, sta mislite.

 

[pfc_ivan]

Odoh da popijem veceras, pa kad budem dosao kuci odigracu malo. Onda cu postaviti sve ruke koje sam odigrao lose

 

[Laki Topalovic]

hahahahahaha

btw, dobra ideja za temu

 

[Gile_vu]

Jos samo kad bi naucio da konvertujem ruke...

 

[Veljko]

Plan je bio da C/R flop, i uopste mi nije sada jasno zasto to nisam uradio, i onda na kraju zovem overbet na riveru kada je izasao K, a imam cist bluf catcher, tako da mi K ustvari uopste ne pomaze (tj mogu da zovem onda ovo i sa K high ???)

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $26.10
UTG: $24.63
CO: $25.00
BTN: $34.30
Hero (SB): $84.53

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has 9:diamond: K:diamond:

fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, BTN calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25, 2 players) J:diamond: 2:diamond: 8:club:
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00

Turn: ($13.25, 2 players) 3:club:
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($13.25, 2 players) K:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets $27.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $27.80

BTN shows 3:heart: 3:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Threes) (PreFlop 50%, Flop 46%, Turn 84%)
Hero shows 9:diamond: K:diamond: (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 50%, Flop 54%, Turn 16%)
BTN wins $66.85

 

[Gile_vu]

Odlican primer.
c/c na flopu i nije tako strasan, al da zoves overbet na riveru... Samo kakve su mu statistike, agresija i slicno.

 

[Laki Topalovic]

i villianov check na turnu je kriminalan takodje.

 

[Gile_vu]

Villian je ili odigrao ludacki (ako prodje, prodje) ili fantasticno (ako je mislio da ce ga Veljko sa overbetom na riveru staviti na blef).

Posle flopa bi ga stavio na mali ili srednji par ili sc, jer je zvao 3B sa buttona.

 

[f1kus]

Ovo je po meni bolja tema i vise pomaze nego da se kace samo kada smo nekoga nadigrali. Jer ovde ce svi da vide da svi grese, i da je to totalno normalna stvar, i da oko toga nema razloga da se ide na tilt...

evo jedne od mene, znaci cist call iz radoznalosti i malog tilta jer mi kraljevi pali 2 puta pre ovoga (glupost teska)... Sve u svemu ne pobedjujem nista i poklanjam pare... Pa paluke, lepo ih iskoristi


ROUND 136728414 STARTED AT 2/15/2011, 3:41 PM
Colagr posts small blind of €2.00
Alcatrazz posts big blind of €4.00
Dealt to F2kus: Kh Ks
F2kus raises to €12.00
Pazzo70 calls €12.00
assoK22 folds
paluke raises to €44.00
Colagr folds
Alcatrazz folds
F2kus calls €32.00
Pazzo70 calls €32.00
--- FLOP --- 2c 8c Jc
F2kus checks
Pazzo70 checks
paluke bets €85.00
F2kus calls €85.00
Pazzo70 folds
--- TURN --- 2c 8c Jc Ad
F2kus checks
paluke checks
--- RIVER --- 2c 8c Jc Ad 2h
F2kus checks
paluke bets €180.00
F2kus calls €180.00
paluke shows As Kc (Two pairs, Aces and Deuces)
paluke wins the main pot of €663.00 with Two pairs, Aces and Deuces
F2kus mucks Kh Ks (Two pairs, Kings and Deuces)

 

[f1kus]

A evo 2 najvece greske danasnje sesije... Greske su bas katastrofalne

ROUND 136966591 STARTED AT 2/16/2011, 2:33 PM
gabibbo20 posts small blind of €2.00
F2kus posts big blind of €4.00
Dealt to F2kus: 8d Qd
pezzon folds
Si chiudeeee raises to €12.00
Pazzo70 folds
gabibbo20 calls €10.00
F2kus raises to €40.00
Si chiudeeee calls €28.00
gabibbo20 calls €28.00
--- FLOP --- As Ks 7h
gabibbo20 checks
F2kus bets €72.00
Si chiudeeee folds
gabibbo20 calls €72.00
--- TURN --- As Ks 7h 6h
gabibbo20 checks
F2kus bets €148.00
gabibbo20 calls €148.00
--- RIVER --- As Ks 7h 6h 4h
gabibbo20 checks
F2kus bets €190.20 and goes all-in!
gabibbo20 calls €190.20
gabibbo20 shows Ac Qh (Pair of Aces)
F2kus shows 8d Qd (High card, Ace)
gabibbo20 wins the main pot of €935.40 with Pair of Aces

ROUND 136974811 STARTED AT 2/16/2011, 3:11 PM
giocatore196 posts big blind of €4.00
Pazzo70 posts small blind of €2.00
Dealt to F2kus: 6d Ad
sandrino93 calls €4.00
CIKIX calls €4.00
F2kus raises to €20.00
superpippa96 calls €20.00
Pazzo70 folds
giocatore196 folds
sandrino93 calls €16.00
CIKIX calls €16.00
--- FLOP --- 8h Th 8d
sandrino93 checks
CIKIX checks
F2kus bets €48.00
superpippa96 calls €48.00
sandrino93 folds
CIKIX folds
--- TURN --- 8h Th 8d Kc
F2kus bets €111.00
superpippa96 calls €111.00
--- RIVER --- 8h Th 8d Kc 9c
F2kus bets €751.30 and goes all-in!
superpippa96 calls €252.60 and goes all-in!
F2kus shows 6d Ad (Pair of Eights)
superpippa96 shows Qc 8s (Three of a kind, Eights)
F2kus gets refund of €498.70
superpippa96 wins the main pot of €904.20 with Three of a kind, Eights

 

[LudiZbrda]

FIKUS BOG !!!

 

[mikelle]

f1ikuse, 'ajde kad budes raspolozen pojasni zasto i gde si pogresio u ove dve poslednje ruke?

 

[f1kus]

f1ikuse, 'ajde kad budes raspolozen pojasni zasto i gde si pogresio u ove dve poslednje ruke?

Protiv ovog sa AQ bila mi je greska jer ne znam igraca a idem sa nekim pretpostavkama... Doduse on se dosta razmisljao na riveru, ali opet ne verujem da ce ikada baciti AQ tamo. I mislim da je posle calla na turnu vec ocigledno da on tu nije na cekanju i da ce da plati river u 90% slucajeva, tako da river zaista nisam imao potrebe da betujem...

A ovog sa Q8 sam verovao da placa samo sa 8x ili sa setom river, ali opet uvukao sam se sa betom na turnu van pozicije a i pojma nemam dal ima ili ceka. Dosta je cekanja na tom bordu i nekako sam ''morao'' da opalim i river koji je 9. Ali trebao sam odustati na turnu, a kada vec nisam odustao na turnu river bet je trebao biti manji, jer u principu ga ja na riveru teram samo od 9ke i jaceg A, a to ce da baci i za 150e, nisam morao da betujem 260e... Ma generalno uzasno odigrano...

 

[kimi]

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (MP1) (t3290)
MP2 (t1065)
CO (t910)
Button (t1950)
SB (t1670)
BB (t2155)
UTG (t930)
UTG+1 (t1530)

Hero's M: 54.83

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4

, 4

UTG calls t40, UTG+1 calls t40, Hero calls t40, 4 folds, BB checks

Flop: (t180) 4

, J

, 7

(4 players)
BB bets t180, UTG calls t180, 1 fold, Hero calls t180

Turn: (t720) 10

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t160, 1 fold, UTG calls t160

River: (t1040) 8

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Total pot: t1040
Main pot: t1040 between Hero and UTG, won by UTG

Results:
UTG had 10

, 9

(straight, Jack high).
Hero had 4

, 4

(three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: UTG won t1040


Kriminal! Dobio sam na flopu sta sam hteo i uspeo da "userem motku"
Za odigravanje na flopu nisam siguran, meni je delovalo ok jer je flop prilicno bezbedan i ima samo dve ruke koje su jace od moje. Bet na turnu je glup da gluplji ne moze biti jer ce me platiti svaki drow, top par pa i midle par. Jedina je sreca sto je na riveru lik hteo da odigra c/r al sam ja samo cekirao iza jer je na riveru izasla najgora moguca karta a lika na UTG sam pogresno stavio na neki srednji par, 99 vrlo moguce. Kako sam glupo odigrao dobro sam i prosao ...

 

[MagicTrick]

Odlicna ruka za ovu temu...
Raise na flopu je ocigledan potez, ali si realno i callom maskirao jacinu tvoje ruke. Bet na turnu je morao biti jaci, jer ta desetka otvara dosta drawowa, a i realno gledas da naplatis dobro tvoj set. Check behind je stvarno dobar za to nemam reci, ja bih to pose njegovog checka sigurno value betovao na riveru. Jer je on to odigrao kao Jx 10x...

 

[MagicTrick]

Evo i jedna od mene...
U pitanju je finalni sto. Ruku sam odigrao kriminalno...
First of all covek limpuje ruku sa srednje pozicije, nemam blage sta ima... Flop, pogadjam to pair, check sam, on mali bet, ja min raise da vidim dal ce da se komituje. On placa. Turn blank, i KARDINALNA greska check od mene (razmisljao sam, dal je limpovao KQ KJ, mozda cak ima i set seronja), check od njega. River samo kako to full tilt zna. On v-bet i ja usrani call jer je previse na stolu.... Ispadoh posle na bubblu, shove PF AQs, call od 77 i naravno ne izlazi nista... Usrah turnir, totalno.



Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 1187697
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): t7650 25.50 BBs
Rockmoser (UTG): t2270 7.57 BBs
Wixola (UTG+1): t3320 11.07 BBs
GypsyPriest (UTG+2): t2105 7.02 BBs
CaptainCollione (MP1): t16330 54.43 BBs
cuore86 (MP2): t4810 16.03 BBs
TheSuckerFish (CO): t18992 63.31 BBs
vijqqq234 (BTN): t3250 10.83 BBs
shawshank17 (SB): t8773 29.24 BBs

Pre Flop: (t450) Hero is BB with K :spade: 6 :diamond:
4 folds, cuore86 calls t300, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: (t750) T :club: 3 :club: K :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, cuore86 bets t600, Hero raises to t1200, cuore86 calls t600

Turn: (t3150) 8 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, cuore86 checks

River: (t3150) T :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, cuore86 bets t900, Hero calls t900

Final Pot: t4950
Hero mucks K :spade: 6 :diamond:
cuore86 shows Q :heart: T :heart: (three of a kind, Tens)
cuore86 wins t4950

 

[prskaj]

axaxaax standardna tilt kazna za cek top pair-a...nikad ne pustaj jeftino da se ljudi kupe...ako nista drugo nece ti biti zao jer znas da si odigrao pravilno ruku...a i uvek gledaj ako vec zelis da cekiras od kojih ruku mozes to naplatiti

 

[Omahamajstor]

ROUND 138243319 STARTED AT 2/21/2011, 6:13 PM
selly86 posts big blind of €2.00
dojoaraschi posts small blind of €1.00
Dealt to marcielio: 9d Ad
marcielio raises to €7.00
bonzaj folds
NicknameEsco calls €7.00
zucchinok8 folds
dojoaraschi folds
selly86 folds
--- FLOP --- Td Qs 8d
marcielio bets €10.00
NicknameEsco raises to €38.00
marcielio raises to €90.00
NicknameEsco raises to €223.50 and goes all-in!
marcielio calls €130.85 and goes all-in!
NicknameEsco shows Ts Tc (Three of a kind, Tens)
marcielio shows 9d Ad (High card, Ace)
--- TURN --- Td Qs 8d As
--- RIVER --- Td Qs 8d As 8s
NicknameEsco gets refund of €2.65
NicknameEsco wins the main pot of €453.70 with Full house, Tens full of Eights


Poneo me adrenalin

 

[Veljko]

ne razumem sta je ovde lose ?

 

[Omahamajstor]

napisacu samo da zavrsim sesiju za po sata